Freire Teaching Institute

Thursday, November 09, 2006

Chapter 3

Please post your responses to chapter 3 here.
*Remember to read chapter 4 by next week.

11 Comments:

  • My reflections to this chapter were sad. Children in New York go to schools that have no windows. There library is a tiny, windowless and claustrophobic room. There are only 700 books, no reference and no encyclopedias. I think that this is really sad because if you have no windows in schools then how are the students going to breathe properly. The principal's own children go to private school because he knows that public schools are really bad. I think that also 26 computers for 1,300 students is a total disgrace because 1,274 students can't use the computers. The schools need more computers because more children can research rather than wait for the next open computer. Overall, Public education in New York was a really sad chapter.

    Azhar Syed

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:03 AM  

  • While reading the third chapter of this book I found out many shocking things about some of the schools in New York State. I did know that there were many schools in the United States in such bad conditions but what surprised me was that there were such schools in New York also. For instance I had found out that schools barely had any window within class rooms. I think that students shouldn’t be living in such conditions. It is really hard to actually have your mind on the studies in such conditions. Students need a fresh atmosphere to work in. Not only that, but the materials these schools provide for the students is close to not having them at all. The schools barely have twenty-five computers. How can you expect about 1,300 students to work and learn with just twenty-five computers? It is impossible. How can people expect these students to learn in such an environment? It is not the students who should be blamed if they don’t graduate or if they dropout. It is the condition and environment they are in. The quantities of the texts these schools have in the libraries are nothing compared to our school libraries. How can you expect a student to learn if they aren’t given the text? Even the principles of these schools send their kids to private schools due to the schools conditions. That’s how bad the circumstances are in these schools. I really think that there should be something done for the better surroundings and education system in such areas.
    -Rahma Tariq

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:27 PM  

  • Chapter three I thought so far was the most shocking. I think this because New York is the state we live in and I was unaware that there was so in public schools that needed so much help. For example it says in a neighborhood of Brooklyn, bathrooms, gymnasiums, hallways, and closets have been converted into classrooms. How are students supposed to get a good education when they have to learn in a bathroom? My question is why would a school except so many student if they know there is not enough room for them? It said that there were five Hatian youngsters literally having class in a urinal. At this point I don\\\'t even see a reason to come to school. I can see why there are so many students not coming to school. These conditions are unsanitary. I also read that the school had over four hundred students not coming to school. If just one hundred of them were to come back then there would be no space for them. The school is actually hoping these students don\'t come back for fear of placement of them. Something needs to be done about this. If a school is struggling like this, then it is only right to some how donate money to them to give them the help they so desperately need.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:24 PM  

  • Chapter three I thought so far was the most shocking. I think this because New York is the state we live in and I was unaware that there was so in public schools that needed so much help. For example it says in a neighborhood of Brooklyn, bathrooms, gymnasiums, hallways, and closets have been converted into classrooms. How are students supposed to get a good education when they have to learn in a bathroom? My question is why would a school except so many student if they know there is not enough room for them? It said that there were five Hatian youngsters literally having class in a urinal. At this point I don\\\'t even see a reason to come to school. I can see why there are so many students not coming to school. These conditions are unsanitary. I also read that the school had over four hundred students not coming to school. If just one hundred of them were to come back then there would be no space for them. The school is actually hoping these students don\\\'t come back for fear of placement of them. Something needs to be done about this. If a school is struggling like this, then it is only right to some how donate money to them to give them the help they so desperately need.

    Andrew Bertram

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:27 PM  

  • Chapter three was really a touching chapter. As I read Kozol visited an elementary school named P.S 79. The principal said this school was built for 1000 people. But there are 1500 people there. They said that the school is too small, and they need more classes.
    Schools around there only have 700 textbooks, encyclopedias and so on. There is limited amount of computers with a huge number of students. With limited amounts of computers, students can’t get there work done. This could cause them to get in trouble. So in some cases in can’t be the student’s fault for not getting the work done. You might think that the students can do the work at home. With an average salary of $7,500 dollars for a family, I don’t think they could afford computers.
    The principal sends there kids to school, because he knows schools like these are not good. In order for the kids to succeed something big needs to be done.
    Brian Varughese

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:54 PM  

  • Chapter 3 is very sad. The schools in New York are in poverity. When children enter there schools they can't even learn. There are limited books for every child atteneding the school. Teachers try to do there best as far as teaching students but it still does not help. Children don't understand whats going on because of the enviornment they were brought up in. This is many reasons why students wont make it so far in school they drop out. This is a sad thng to know and hear.Tell me how can a student learn in a bathroom? this sounds very unreal and ridiculous. There's not much I can say about this chapter it's sad and students are suffering behind it .


    SHALONDA HIGHLAND

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:12 PM  

  • I can not believe the things I was reading in chapter 3. Segregation in New York? Unbelievable! I know that New York is not the best but compared to other states yes it much better to me. I would never think the schools were and maybe still are in bad condition. I've been living in New York City since the day I was born and the blackboards were always in good condition. Some of the schools were mixed and I never heard about New York City Schools in such a poor mess.

    I find this quote very sad: "Blackboards at school, according to New York Times, are” so badly cracked that teachers are afraid to let students write on them for fear they'll cut themselves"."

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:18 PM  

  • Chapter 3 was definitly another wake up call about the schools in the United States especially it being about schools in New York. We live here and just reading about it makes you think that things like these are happening not to far away. What really made me sad was reading about the schools in south bronx especially the one that was a former skating rink. Mr. Kozol mentions that he felt like he was sufucating in some of the classrooms because they had no windows. How can a classroom have no window's??? Even teacher's say that in the winter it is 60 degrees and in the summer it feels like 100. I really hope that things improve for children that have to learn under those conditions.

    Valerie

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 7:35 PM  

  • Chapter 3 for me was the most interesting chapter because like aurora said it talked about our home town and where we are from. I got really sad when i was reading this chapter mainly because once again it was really sad to know that this was true. Espicially when he was comparing the two schools and how one school had no windows and it got really hot. It also talked about how the school in the South Bronx was leaking very badly and the walls were chipping. When i was reading this chapter i thought to myself how lucky i am to go to the school i go to. I mean all schools have there downs but compared to other schools i feel our school is really lucky. Its also sad to know that some of those kids in the South Bronx are probably very smart and they cant even show their intelligence in school where they cant breath.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 9:05 PM  

  • Chapter three of Savage Inequalities was personally, the most shocking chapter. I feel like everyone thinks of New York City education as being well organized, setting high standards for children. This may be true in all schools that I am aware of, however I didn't know such schools as the ones described in chapter threee even existed. The title of the chapter caught my attention, and Kozol referred to other towns in New York that grabbed my attention as well. The only way i can describe this chapter is shocking and eye-opening. How can anyone let schools succumb to such low levels?

    Christina Caruso

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 4:41 PM  

  • I find that the my DEAR teacher Ms. Chowdhury is constantly asking me why I get upset at the book that I am reading. I reply that it is simply not fair for students, like in this book, who are aware (at least in this town they are) of other, better, schools, and want to do better, cant. Its like what I'm learning in global right now, the pyramid at which the peasants were at the bottom, but they are the largest population, and the nobles are at the top of the pyramid, but they have the smallest poopulation. In hinduism, the only way for you to move up or down in the pyramid, is to die and come back with either good or bad karma. he point is that these students cant move up in the pyramid because the rest of the world...aka the govt., isnt giving them the resources to do so.

    -Denise-

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:12 PM  

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